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To: dvasht
No offense but I find it very funny that a fund with $1.3M wants to invest 40% in Buyouts, 20% in late stage VC, 15% in growth capital etc' etc' – I think you basically can't invest in anything let along get an active lead role, which is the only way to really learn it
It is an interesting idea but I am sorry if I can't take this fund too seriously – also I didn't get the strategy and there will not be any continuation and taking positions with the companies, hence what is the strategy to actually create value???
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בתגובה ל: התקבלת? אנא עדכן #18217To: All
Hi all
for all the people who got in and all of those who are applying now
we wrote several years ago a full and quite lengthy website just for such people – http://www.iimba.org.il
there is a LOT of info there in the admit and candidates sections that I think can be helpful
enjoy
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בתגובה ל: האם לעשות MBA? #18062To: ehudger
One note
Most of the times (99%) we as Israelis will not fit the need based aspect – yes we make shitty money in here and many of us at that stage have very little if at all savings. But you are competing on the need based scholarships either with an Indian who moves to the states with his 3 kids or with an American that finished med school and still have $400K loans to return…
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #17928To: zapkif
Hi there
I actually think you can be a very interesting candidate in Chicago Booth – and your degree will fit perfectly with the analytical finance focus
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To: dvasht
I don't think they are better than the benchmark:
- They are using synthic short where normal funds can't do so
- They have ~ 25-40% of their asset in fixed income where the benchmark is ALL equity
- The stocks they chose (for example Guess and Cardinal) are small cap and hence have a very different Beta from the market beta and as such can not compare to the market benchmark of the S&P
- Overall, it seems like the fund is more an Alpha producer and as such -20% is not a good return at all but they should be market neutral and aim for positive returns no matter what the market is doing
Just my 2 cents from my Finance and investments classes
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To: אייל
I am with Eyal – I wasn't planning on dragging Chicago specifically but more to give more concrete examples especially from a school I really know so it was easier for me to elaborate and give some data…
I for one am the biggest believer that the school can take one to a limited extent and that at the end it is up to the person to get himself the right job – just my 2 cents
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To: assafwand
Lastly – another interesting tip to know which are the core schools
enter the website http://www.mckinsey.com and add the name of the school (I inserted the Chicago option) you are interested in http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/chicagogsb – you will get into the specific website of the school – this will give you details on the process etc for this specific school. Core schools will have a a recruiter, Junior Recruiter and staffed ambassador – other schools might have one recruiter
In addition, most of the core schools will fill in the application on their school's dedicated McKinsey website and would usually won't need cover letter and for instance in Chicago since there is a grade non disclosure there is no need to post grades.
check out the calendar of events to see what events the firm is holding in school http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/chicagobooth/campus_calendar.aspx
Hope this helps
Assaf
To: Question
Overall indeed the M7 are the core schools – Tuck is not one of them but I can specifically speak for McKinsey there is quite a nice presence in Tuck for McKinsey – mostly for the Eastern offices, Duke is also strong in the Southern offices and Michigan in the Mid West.
I believe that Bain hardly recruit in these schools, but BCG have a wider spread.
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To: dvasht
Hi guys,
Sorry to interfere in this discussion but I just feel this is not true at all – in particular regarding consulting, in the past I was a consultant with McKinsey in NYC and was very much involved with recruiting.
Overall, specifically for McKinsey and I believe it is the same for Bain and BCG even to a bigger extent – the company maintains 7 core schools, which they recruit from and aprox 80-90% of the MBA class that enters the firm comes from these schools. The firm do come to other schools but to a way lesser extent and usually from offices that are in the region – for instance, Michigan is strong in the Mid west region of McKinsey, but it is very rate to have a person from this school in the NYC, Boston offices.
Another important point – there is a very different level of commitement that a company can make in a specific campus. For instance, I graduated from Chicago Booth and in the school McKinsey hosts around 15 events for each class (1st and 2nd year) every year – this means from dinners, cocktails, going to a game together, lectures by different practice heads of the firm. In addition, there is a rep of the firm that sits ON campus for 3 months where all is job is answering questions and helping people with cases etc' – this is usually an Engagment Manager or Associate Principal in the firm.
If someone is interested in specific company he should look at the placement reports – the fact that a company arrives to campus has many different flavours
Lastly, what I wrote happens in all of the core schools and for many many companies on campus
I thought to clear it
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #17598To: gileyal
I completly agree – this is utter BS – each exam is brand new and the system does not take into account the previous test
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בתגובה ל: אין יותר הלוואות? #16230To: Shimshon
The banks do not need to accept these terms – the school needs to understand his exposure – in top schools the default rate is lower than 0.1% (according to Chicago GSB), and again usually people do not default on the entire sum but on a very small portion of it – or they ask for a deferral in payment or a longer grace period. It does not sum up to a lot no matter how, there are always students that are company sponsored or are very wealthy and do not take a loan at all – the entire meaning is that the school takes the position of the co-signer – which isn't a big deal
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #16218To: asircpa
take an executive education
Chicago GSB has a very very good exec MBA in London
http://europe.chicagoexec.net/
enjoy
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בתגובה ל: אין יותר הלוואות? #16214To: Shimshon
I think this is the route that most of the schools will go for – I had a discussion about it with Rose from Chicago GSB a week ago.
All the schools know that it is a big issue for them and they are very clear that they need and want international students. Overall, the default rate of these foreign students went from less than 0.5% to less than 2.5% – so for a school like Chicago GSB for instant who has 550 student, of whice ~ 40% are international – it is 220 students per year – assuming an average loan of $100K it is $22M a year – basically even assuming the 3% default ratio it means the school will be exposed to $660K – and most people return some of the money and are not defaulting on the entire sum -also there are initiation fees etc' which would cover these costs – I think it isn't a problem AT ALL for the schools to be exposed for $500K and co sign the international students…
just my 2 cents
Assaf
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בתגובה ל: Chicago Booth #16080To: All
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #15471To: JR13
I would seriously examine executive MBA's options. Chicago has a very cool option in London in which you go there every several weeks for a long weekend – I know of several Israelis that did it
To be honest I think an exec MBA would be the best path for you – move forward with your career and gain a great MBA experience
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #15423To: JR13
JR – If you aer getting the promotion why would you consider the MBA – isn't it better to move forward on your accelerated path as is????
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #15038To: nyaniv
It would play a lot more signficant role in your recruiting (the actual returns) and it doesn't interest the committee – BUT the fact you were an engineer that was attracted finance (and the quant aspects of it) is a good strategy for why biz school, why now and for specific schools…
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בתגובה ל: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #15030To: nyaniv
I would surely mention it – in particular if you wish to enter a more financial oriented course and naturally this would fit very well into your strategy
One small remark – if you invest in growth via small cap than the S&P isn't your benchmark but rather an index that has a comperable Beta :-)
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