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  • R2D2
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    To: edi


    בתנאי שהמטרה הסופית שלי היא ללמוד לתואר שני במנהל עסקים, האם כדאי להשקיע בשביל ללמוד לתואר ראשון בוורטון במנהל וטכנולוגיה(שני תארים) ואחר כך ללמוד לתואר שני במנהל עסקים או שעדיף ללמוד לתואר ראשון בישראל ואחר כך לנסות להיתקבל לתואר שני במנהל עסקים?

    Yes. If you can – go to Wharton.

    R2D2
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    To: egeg


    יקבלו אותך לתואר שני – אבל אם תעשה תואר ראשון במנהל עסקים בוורטון אז הסיכוי שלך לתואר שני במנהל עסקים בוורטון הוא יותר קטן… זה בטח לא יפגע בסיכויים שלך לתואר שני בהרוורד סטנפורד וכו'… גם אם תעשה תואר ראשון בכלכלה בהרוורד זה לא יפגע לך בסיכויים לתואר שני במנהל עסקים בהרוורד…

    מה שאמרתי רק שבתי ספר למנהל עסקים לא אוהבים לקחת מישהו שעשה תואר ראשון במנהל עסקים בבית הספר שלהם לתואר שני – כי הערך המוסף שהוא יקבל לא מאוד גדול

    פשוט לא נכון. אל תטעה/י פה אנשים סתם

    .

    R2D2
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    To: mayab


    Post your email and I'll try to make sure that someone from each school will contact you.

    R2D2
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    To: mayab


    לסטנפורד התקבלו 6 ישראלים השנה ולוורטון 8~.

    R2D2
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    To: D06


    ההבדלים בריבית בין שתי המדינות מתקזזים בעקבות שערי חליפין דולר/שקל. למשל, אפילו שבארה"ב תשלם נניח 4% (על הלוואה דולרית) ובישראל 10% (על הלוואה שקלית), כח הקניה של הסכום שלווית (ושל הריבית שתשלם) יהיה זהה. אם לדוגמה הריבית בארה"ב תעלה, שער הדולר ירד, ושוב יווצר אותו איזון.

    I don't presume to give anyone here a finance lecture, however, assuming a natural balance between $/NIS only because one factor (interest rate) has changed is somewhat naive and even dangerous.

    Each case should be calculated seperately.

    R2D2
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    To: odrp


    "מאחר ובת הזוג הנוכחית שלי הולכת על ארבע רגלים ועושה מיאו"

    Where did you find a girl like that?! And trust me, I've been looking around…

    R2D2
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    To: All


    FYI:

    April 25, 2004

    The B-School Hierarchy

    By SCOTT JASCHIK–THE NEW YORK TIMES

    The doors to the hotel ballroom hadn't opened yet, but the 200 M.B.A. students lined up outside were busy plotting their strategy. The mirrors in the hallway were perfect for last-minute checks of ties, hair and handkerchiefs. Are the business cards within easy reach? As the students primped, they traded intelligence.

    "I hear I.B.M.'s schedule is full."

    "Philip Morris is hiring."

    The job fair was sponsored by the MBA Consortium, a group of 16 business schools that are good but a couple of steps down the B-school hierarchy. To help their students get jobs — either summer internships or permanent positions — the consortium had gathered 14 employers at the Marriott Eastside in Manhattan on this January day to meet them. The recruiters, who sat at tables displaying their wares, had already selected some students for interviews the next day based on resumes, but they had saved places for applicants who would impress them today.

    The students had paid their travel expenses and $50 to register. Many of them did not have interviews lined up. So the pressure was on. They had only a few minutes to make their pitch, and those in line — their competition — could hear them.

    Ryan Hoebelheinrich, a first-year student at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, N.C., waited his turn in the long I.B.M. line and made his pitch for an internship interview. After a firm handshake and a handoff of his resume, he told the recruiter he enjoyed problem solving, operations and finance.

    "Are you flexible about where you would work this summer?"

    Mr. Hoebelheinrich said yes instantly. And it was over. (He didn't end up getting an interview.) Next person in line.

    As is often the case in troubled economic times, business schools reported an enrollment surge in 2002. Now those class members must compete for a limited job pool. Meanwhile, companies are putting off hiring decisions as long as possible until they can tell where the economy is going. Students at second- or third-tier schools can certainly build successful careers. But given the degree's hefty price tag and the tough economic climate, deans and corporate recruiters warn that a master's degree in business administration does not necessarily translate into a high-salary job. And the path to a leading investment bank or consulting company runs almost exclusively through a narrow band of elite business schools.

    "If you want to be an M.&A. lawyer, investment banker in a top house or a consultant for McKinsey — these elite jobs that everybody seems to want — you're not even going to get an interview unless you go to one of the elite schools," says Robert H. Frank, a Cornell University management professor and co-author of "The Winner-Take-All Society."

    "Going to an elite school doesn't guarantee you'll get one of those jobs," he adds, "but for better or worse, you won't even have a shot at it without it."

    AS the tight job market accentuates the advantages that graduates of Harvard or the University of Pennsylvania enjoy even in the best of times, students from lower-tier schools must hustle even harder.

    At the job fair, options are improving but it's clear that they are still more limited than a few years ago. I.B.M. will hire about 2,000 people for the summer, down from 3,000 in past years. Organizers are pleased to have 14 employers. Last year, there were 10. But in the 1990's, they had 30, and students could write their own ticket.

    If you want to rile someone at the fair, use the phrase "core schools." Those are schools where companies recruit in person year after year. Many have only five or so core schools, some as few as two. At big-time companies, only a few business schools turn up on list after list: Harvard, Northwestern, Stanford, Chicago, University of Pennsylvania, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Columbia.

    A survey by Business Week last year found that of Citigroup's 164 M.B.A. hires, 23 were from Columbia and 14 from the Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania. No other business school placed more than 8 there. Columbia M.B.A.'s took 16 of the 71 M.B.A. jobs at Booz Allen Hamilton, 11 of the 43 at Deutsche Bank, and 15 of the 40 at Goldman Sachs.

    What do these gold-plated programs bring to the table?

    Jeffrey Pfeffer, a professor at Stanford's business school, published a study in 2002 based on decades of data to determine what the M.B.A. degree actually did for students. Internal studies by leading consulting firms and investment banks of their M.B.A. and non-M.B.A. employees showed that the degree had no impact beyond helping them get the job.

    Professor Pfeffer concluded: "There is little evidence that mastery of the knowledge acquired in business schools enhances people's careers, or that even attaining the M.B.A. credential itself has much effect on graduates' salaries or career attainment."

    To practice medicine, medical school is essential; ditto for law. But if you can excel in business without business school, he wondered, what is its value?

    Professor Pfeffer's report set off intense debate. "The official reaction is that I've got my head up some part of my anatomy," he now says. "But privately, a lot of people tell me I'm right, but they just can't say that." (And indeed, privately, many business educators do agree.)

    But even critics like Professor Pfeffer say that top business schools do something of value: sort students. People who invest in an M.B.A. are often bright in the first place, and those with the most potential attend business schools from which they can land jobs with important futures.

    "It wasn't what the students learned, but that you've got this preselected group of people," he says.

    Eileen M. Stephan, executive …[Message truncated]

    R2D2
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    בתגובה ל: גיבוי 2 #2772

    To: All


    Guys,

    You gotto read this:

    From: AskSandy [email protected]/B SANFORDK1 Apr-7 7:01 pm
    To: B antjim/B (7856 of 7875)
    10180.7856 in reply to 10180.7853

    Sandy,

    Do you think Wharton issues 'dead meat' interview invites?

    Thanks.

    ========

    YES– a lot because of low interview to accept rate (way below 50 percent, and trad. 25 percent altho it creeped up to 35 percent this year) while S and H rate is ~60, so by definition more interviewed kids at Whart. get dinged than H/S. But folder readers are instructed to ID top 25 percent of all folders for interview (maybe a bit higher this year) so initial readers often flag a folder for interview knowing in advance it is dead meat. This happens at S too, for same reasons and w. added twist that you might have low stats but super hit S. bonus issues like being a PC victim of some kind, for instance, the Palestenian sex -change applicant who was attacked by Hamas and then falsely arrested at Israeli checkpoint when they mistook breast implants for plastique suicide bra, well,that kid, w. 340 gmat would be interviewed but not accepted…………………..well, probably not accepted, altho that story is SOOOOOOOOOOOO Stanford, they might make an exception to their "no sex changers below 500 gmat rule."

    Sandy Kreisberg

    Harvard, Stanford, Wharton

    Cambridge Essay Service

    R2D2
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    To: gnadir


    Well, this is the info I got from HBS, but hey – you must know better than me.

    R2D2
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    To: gnadir


    YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO EVENTUALLY ENROLED, NOT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO WERE ACCEPTED.

    In fact, 8 Israelis were admitted last year 2 or 3 didn't go.

    R2D2
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    From: B /B 7:22 pm
    To: AskSandy [email protected]/B S

    Looks like market for top business schools is finally improving!

    Goldman, Deutsche Boost M.B.A. Recruiting at Wharton, Columbia

    http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=av1gFF7ruR78&refer=us

    March 2 (Bloomberg) — Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. are among Wall Street firms that are hiring more at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, Columbia Business School and other top M.B.A. programs for the first time in three years.

    See link for full Bloomberg story.

    http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=av1gFF7ruR78&refer=us

    R2D2
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    In reply to apeled from December 09 2003 on 00:57


    Hello,

    I wonder what is your view re: on campus interview Vs. alumni interview in Israel?(For Wharton of course)

    Thanks

    R2D2
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    Gilam,

    What percentage of the Wharton applicants get to the interview stage, and what percentage of those who interview are finally getting in (the Israeli aspect is even more interesting)?

    And if I may add – how many from the R1 Israeli apps who were interviewed were accepted?

    Last one – how important is the interview in the app. process for W? (can you quantify it as % of the total application?)

    Thanks !

    R2D2
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    In reply to ירון from January 23 2004 on 14:55


    sounds reasonable…

    What about Stanford?

    BTW – I got post # 400

    R2D2
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    Gilam,

    What are the realistic chances to get into MIT/Stanford into round 3?

    Thanks

    R2D2
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    In reply to jgalore from January 21 2004 on 21:26


    It must be since your GMAT is so low..

    R2D2
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    In reply to jgalore from January 21 2004 on 21:09


    Please share your stats. with us R2 candidates.

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