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בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #9770
To: nate77
I think it is a general article rather than an HBS one and is true to all the schools
A
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #9544To: pogo
Hi
I would check out Chicago- number one place for analytics and logic
and really good entrepreneurship program
Naturally I am biased :)
A
בתגובה ל: Ask Assaf About Chicago #9474To: yinona
Hi Yinon,
Here you go, you can try to contact Gil who is currently teaching in Columbia, but did his PhD in Chicago
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #9185To: rocksrabbit
Hi Itzik
I think it will be best if you will go to the IIMBA website
and go to the school's moderator's – each school has one with contacts and are ready, able and willing to help you out
hope it helps,
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #9144To: mb3
Hi there,
I also think Chicago will be a great option with an amazing PhD program in Biology and really good quality of life for a family
Assaf
To: eladl
Sure
Any referral by Ronen is an important one
my contacts are [email protected]
looking forward to hearing from you
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #9101To: sefi
I think it is a marketing project by several students in Chicago GSB trying to improve the school's positioning and for that they want to better understand it by having this simple survey with a short conjoint analysis bit
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #9096To: yarony
Hi Yaron,
As the head of the IIMBA, I think I can answer this question.
Gilam is the owner of Aringo, but the IIMBA is a student run (now graduates) organization that is aimed at helping Israeli applicants, current students and graduates http://www.iimba.org/aboutus.asp
Mbachances- is a joint venture between the above two groups, Gilam commited to remain impartial (which I think he is) and we monitor the forum and answer questions, in addition to opening new chats
This all thing doesn't make money and is using people free time
Hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #9093To: All
Hi Everyone,
A friend from Chicago GSB has asked me to post this survey – it is meant to understand the different perceptions and reasoning behind applying to different schools
it doesn't take more than 5 minutes and is actually interesting
enjoy
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בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #9046To: Ivy1
I completly agree,
In addition, to actually enable the "smooth" transition I am under the notion that one has to work in Goldman or Morgan stanley and or McKinsey (to lesser extent Bain and BCG) to actually get into the big shops
One comment though- I am not sure that the BIG shops is were you actually want to work – it is a question of where do you see yourself in the future? does brand recoginition is more important to you? or is it actual deal experience (many people in the top shops can work for 2-3 years without actually closing a single dea) and the type of companies that interest you, in addition, in mid cap PE shops you will probably receive considerably more responsibility and better treatment (and personal at that) than at the big shops
just my 2 cents
A
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #8989<p align=left dir=ltr>To: All<br><hr></p><div align=left dir=ltr>I think he got the point
I still suggest he should interview with Stanford- I believe he came from a good place basically assuming that if he will not potentially take a spot in Stanford, it would improve the chances of another Israeli applicantI don't think it works this way
do the interview and go to see the schools if you get admitted- don't let non relevant aura etc' influence your judgement
On a personal note- I would have chosen Stanford over HBS
Assaf</div>בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #8984To: Infowell
I see that you are already getting acquinted to the culture of your new school
We got the information of your Stanford interview from the first post – no need to put it in each and everyone
I think you forgot the thread "MBA in Israel" and "Ask Yishi in UCLA"
I think you should do the interview and choose only after that
more options is always better- good for life, for financial aid etc'.
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #8977To: kw1
OK I will try to be brief:
Investment banks- this is a very organized on campus recruiting and all the major banks participate in it- some more financial oriented schools (Chicago, Columbia and Wharton) are better at putting their students in these firms- There are several roles –
Investment Banking, Research, Sales and Trading and Private Banking are the major ones
companies include: Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan, Bear Stearns, Lehman etc' etc'
Investment Management– This basically means moving to the buy side (other than the divisions within the I banks) and the work is mostly covering different stocks, bonds, markets and issuing an investment decision/idea.
You can work either for a Mutual Fund company (Wellington, American Funds, Fidelity etc', or sometimes within Banks Deutsche Bank, William Blair etc') or within an Hedge Fund (same idea with different compensation structure, and a lot more flexible in terms of the investment products available and world – short/long, options, commodities, risk level, leverage etc' etc')- This recruting is a lot more off campus- which means that you: A) should work a lot harder by yourself to get there B) The importance of the school is higher (all the schools above + Harvard)- Big Hedge funds includes Citadel, D.E. Shaw and GLG in Europe to a name a very few of the 9,000 funds out there
Private Equity- The more objective term is investing in private equities- meaning – not public companies, but this space is very broad and almost all the big shops are investing in public companies.
For a simple break down I would break it down between Venture Capital and Buy Out (there are a lot more options in between)
Venture Capital- Investing almost exclusively in the techonology space, in different stages- from the seed (just presentation) to growth capital (infusing money in stable companies)- once again, mostly off campus recruiting- big names are Kleiner Perkins, Sequoia, Benchmark, Battery ventures, Greylock (a lot of them are already in Israel)- HBS and Stanford are the best places to get there- one caveat though is that HBS and Stanford are the schools that almost automaticaly accept people from these firms (And the buyout), hence you will be competing for very few jobs with people with network and great experience in the space in these schools. Techonology background is a plus in here.
BuyOut- this means, usually, investing in big, stable, solid and cash generating companies – many times taking private a public company, then usually changing some of the management, the operations and mostly the financial structure of the acquired companies- Bezek in Israel is a good example of an acquistion, and Markstone and FIMI for Buyout shops
KKR, Blackstone, Carelyle etc' are the big players, this is an offcampus process, and HBS dominates that space (with the same caveat as for the VC), there is very little recruiting done also in Wharton, it is very difficult to enter a good shop
That's my subjective two cents, it is based on broad generalization and is aimed at giving you a rough idea
Hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #8935To: kw1
Hi PAPA,
I think the question is WWAAAAYYY to broad
I suggest you should do some reading before – go to Vault and Wetfit to get some more info and then ask more specific question
Overall there are Buy Side and Sell side – first answer that
then there is Public equity vs' Private equity – then answer that
Lastly, Late stages vs' early stages – answer that
by answering these three questions you will be able to ask a more succint question
Hope it helps,
A
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #8885To: gbiron
Gur and Eyal,
I am not sure regarding the one payment- I think that just an acceptance- but then there is another process of applying to the scholarship :-)
Also, I think it is a no brainer anyhow- if you get into the GSB – just GO
A
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #8879To: אייל
I am no expert on that – I think Moshe and the other guys can shed more light
but overall, Yes you need to apply to Chicago AND get admitted to receive the scholarship
However, there are 3 full scholarships with Stipend (~$25,000 living expense) only for Israelis
A
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #8870To: asafbaner
I believe Chicago GSB's 2-4 new full scholarships (with $20,000 living expense) will be great for someone of your profile,
They are dedicated scholarships JUST for Israelis and are based on contribution (past, present and future) to the state of Israel as long as other attributes
Hope it helps,
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ביקרת בקמפוס? אנא עדכן #8829To: guylevit
come however you feel like for Chicago
most are coming with buttoned down shirt – but the students are casual (with flip flops in the summer) so come in what you feel comfortable with
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #8532To: eliko
I believe 4 israelis were admitted to Chicago in the 1st round
The school is very positive for the second round
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #8447To: yonis
no no
take it easy – it is only the GMAT – there will be so many other things to stress you in there so it isn't worth stressing from now :-)
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #8224To: Nuri
Hi all,
I will be participating in the Kidum conference next week-
I talked to Chicago's admissions to get some clearification regarding this specific question and they said that answers in Chicago will come out on the 11th of Jan (maybe for some on the 10th) and not as it used to be before 2-3 weeks prior the date until the date
hope it helps,
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #8159To: Gilam
Here are my 2 cents
GND (Grade Non Disclosure) is different from school to school
Coming from Chicago I know the case in there- In Chicago it is a STUDENT initiative and not a school initiative (the school overall hates it but respect the student's decision)
so it will probably won't change in Chicago
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #8098To: yaniv1975
Interesting- I just looked at our (Chicago GSB) alumni database
and there are only 2 people who actually studied in the Techniyon- not a very appropriate perception
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #8018To: hagaygol
this completly makes sense (was just interested in finding out)
The only question I would want to answer would be – what exactly are you planning to do post graduation (which companies do you want to work in)
and see whether these companies actually recruit on these campuses
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #7995To: hagaygol
just out of curiousity – why there programs???
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #7994To: chapnik
I think your profile is good enough to get admitted to any program
it all depends on the application you make now
Assaf
בתגובה ל: Ask Assaf About Chicago #7894To: JoeCool
woow- a lot of questions,
Let's try to answer them using my logic and perpspective:
1) This is a weird question- I don't really know you, and I think that all of the interviewers are good (and this is something you can't expect me to write my personal perspectives in here :-))- do some Due diligence before choosing and I don't think it really matters.
2) I would wear business casual as a base in Israel (unless for an interviewer from abroad) BUT would ask the interviewer in the mail
3) From my far experience I would think it will be ~ 30-45 min, quite casual the regualr 3 why? and them some more in depth experiences questions, it is more a discussion to understand the motives and the calibre of the applicant
hope it helps in any way
good luck
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #7731To: hbs06
Thanks for the clearification Danny,
Now it makes sense for me (and for my assumption) that the total package (median) for the PE was taken and not for the entire school
thanks for that
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #7726To: LPOW
I don't think it is a but much calling it Bogus
I know first hand what are the average numbers and I don't see how they got to an AVERAGE of $174K
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #7718To: zifr
My thoughts on this article are:
1) Overall the market is good and improving- salaries went up a bit
2) The numbers are bogus- everyone who got an I banking job, no matter from which school and in which company recieved the same $95K base and bonuses will be good across the board
3) Consulting numbers are different from Banking with higher base ($115K) but considerable less of a bonus
4) I don't think the numbers between schools differ so much, and if at all they would probably not be the highest in HBS, but probably Columbia, Wharton and Chicago (becuase of the high concentration of bankers) and although HBS have a relatively high number of PE jobs it is still a small fraction (~5-8%)
just my two cents
ASSAF
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #7710To: eladsm
one comment
I think your GMAT is good enough
save your money and time and focus on the actual application
Hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #7448To: Oded Eckstein
yes
:-)
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #7232To: yuvaln
send an email to a friend of mine who studied there
Rolan Hribar- and mention that Assaf gave you his email
enjoy
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #7138To: YFEFFER
OK
I don't know what is your friend doing with his market research, but I basically disagree with most if not all of his points.
Visa's were always an issue, but I don't know of a single Israeli who didn't get a job because of it (true we apply to places that we know hire foreigners).
Getting into MIT is still an impressive and difficult task and shouldn't be taken lightly.
Internships are really important for the job search process- either you get an offer and choose to go back to your summer employer or try to get an offer and a new BRAND on your resume (something that an international company can relate to) and it helps you with the full time job search
And I can't remember what more questions were there
overall- I disagree with his analysis
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #7024To: yaniv_ma
Hi Yaniv,
DON'T WORRY they will not sniff around, the only person they might contact (and 99% through email) will be your recommender- just chill.
I was a previous employee in Intel Capital and managed with the same issues- don't add any such comment
Hope it helps,
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6985To: All
Hi all,
Although I am a Chicago GSB grad and totally biased towards the school and would urge you to go to the presentation on Sep 6th, I think there is another major reason to do so even if you're not interested in the school at all (beside the new full scholarship + stipend to an Israeli student)
The Head of Admissions is coming, Rose was previously the head of admissions of Wharton and well "she knows her stuff" I think it will be a great opportunity for all of you to finally meet someone of that caliber in the process and ask specific questions regarding the process and not just the school.
This is my 2 cents
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6974To: feurie
Hi,
Kellogg has a strong specific program focus on life sciences, also Duke and Wharton has an healthcare management program
these are specifics, but from any top school you could reach these companies if you're determent enough
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #6641To: kless1974
Hi Doron- I think Chicago will be great for your background and aspirations
There is a specific thread for Chicago
but send me an email to [email protected]
and I will forward it to some of the now 2nd years to answer and give you different perspectives
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #6638To: kless1974
Hi Doron,
I would have positioned my application in the following way
Focus on Insurance and stating you:
1) Want to focus on advanced features such as risk management
2) Wish to learn from best practices in the US in companies such as Progressive
3) Learned the problems with the Israeli/European Insurance companies non sophisticated markets and wish to learn more and explore it and in the end start your own advanced insurance firm
Hope it helps
Assaf
Chicago GSB
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #6619To: kless1974
Hi Doron,
I am just curious since I haven't seen any real connection between the schools you are planning to apply to- why not Chicago GSB
Chicago have an amazing entrepreneurship concentration that will really appreciate your experiences
Assaf
Chicago GSB class of 2005
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6560To: LPOW
no idea
sorry
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6554To: LPOW
For Chicago GSB,
McK offered 71 full time positions (not including previous employees of the firm that were students)- I am heading to NYC office as a full disclosure.
Bain and BCG something like 25-30 each and Booz around 25 as well
class size of 510 people
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6548To: LPOW
Overall I would say it is the same schools you would think of:
Wharton
Chicago GSB
Kellogg
MIT
Stanford
HBS
and probably Columbia
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון: לחברים בלבד #6528To: inbalbr
Hi Inbal,
Why aren't you thinking of University of Chicago with its amazing faculty in Finance, also Wharton.
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #6517To: LPOW
I honestly think we answerd this question in the forum atleast 15 times
just scroll back and read some of the answers.
And YES I believe it is worth it- too long of an answer to elaborate :-)
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6516To: gad
Hi Gad,
I am a student in University of Chicago, who took an exchange semester in Sydney.
A leading Australian University offers you good employment options in Australia and (OK for South East Asia), the school have an OK reputation in SE Asia (I think it is one of the best there). The program is small ~ 70-90 students, quite international and OK level.
Atmosphere is nice and friendly. It isn't equivelent to an American school, but it is good. I can get you intouch with some friend from the school if you wish (my email is [email protected]).
hope it helps
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: ???Any Israeli Applicants #6503To: gad
Hi Gad,
According to my knowledge and all the surveys the leading university is AGSM in Sydney, which is a joint venture by University of New South Wales (UNSW) and University of Sydney.
Assaf
בתגובה ל: ארכיון 2: שאל את ארינגו: תהליך הקבלה #6388To: motti_sh
feel free to contact me at [email protected]
However, I think it would be best to ask in the special thread- ask about Chicago and some other students from the GSB can answer
hope it helps
Assaf
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